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Lupe Fiasco Complex Magazine Interview

on September 09, 2010

Lasers, Food & Liquor II, Japanese Cartoon etc etc. Pretty good read (Kinda lengthy). Much more informative then pretty much anything that's been said the last... couple years lol.

 

http://www.complex.com/blogs/2010/09/08/interview-lupe-fiasco-talks-lasers-delay-japanese-cartoon-and-food-liquor-ii/ 

EDIT: I know a few people have already read it, but I didn't see it posted anywhere here so I decided to post it up.

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ExposingTheWicked's picture

Nowadays Lupe Uses The Word 'Illuminati' Regular.
Droolin's picture

i thought this was gonna be the first thread about music business without the word illuminati being included. im going to go and play with some woodland animals until i forget about this site lol
ExposingTheWicked's picture

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marian12's picture

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ExposingTheWicked's picture

One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived. - Machiavelli Any One See The Connection ?
ExposingTheWicked's picture

And Besides, Like Lupe Said It's Dirty... He Can't Tell The Story Becouse 'Illuminati' Is Not Willing To Push Lupe's Music . If You Study The Case Of Tupac You Will Notice That Money Is Not The Only Thing Revolving Around In The 'Industry'. ''It takes skill to be real'' Tupac Amaru Shakur
nIANja909's picture

The only time I can see an artist not making some money from an album, is if that album sales terribly, and the record label isn't able to recover their expenditure. In which case, album profit goes first and foremost to the label until they've made back however much an album cost to make, and marketing etc. And the artist might not see royalties for that album for a while. Even then, I'm not 100% sure that's how it works. But I know for a fact your High School Music Production Center's numbers are way off somewhere. Unless, they are basing their stats off of some really unique, sh***y deal that was made in which an artist only got a cent per album sale lol. But last I checked (and it's been a bit) around a dollar on AVERAGE is what artists make per album sold (but again, this is usually after labels recover their expenditure). Which, a dollar is still only a small fraction of 15 dollar albums. But it's definitely considerably more then a penny.
ExposingTheWicked's picture

SO/UN U Are Being Sarcastic Right? If Not You Must Be Really Stupid. http://tinyurl.com/LetsLaughAtLupeFiasco Have A Laugh
Aradi's picture

SO/UN, what you're saying is just not feasible. Majority of artists don't go gold or platinum. Therefore they would expect to earn only a $1,000 per album if they're lucky, or maybe $2,000. Even with what they'll earn with concerts and stuff they'd have to release like 6 albums a year to survive. And that's just to get by, not the exorbitant lifestyles we see from them. Soulja Boy earns 15 cents for every Youtube comment on his videos. By your saying that's a more profitable venture. You shouldn't have thrown school man. You need the Business and Economics in your life even if music is your field of interest. I also think it's a bit fat artists saying labels take advantage of them. Like Ian said, the brand name is very very important for them.
Soun's picture

I am in a "Music Producton Career Center" threw my high school & this is 1 of the 1st things that they taught us...
Soun's picture

I know its hard to believe (the whole $10,000=1million LP sales)...but the truth is almost never easy 2 handle...& yes some do make more but artist that are new or fairly new such as B.o.B. make 1-2 cents per album sold on average...
nIANja909's picture

Lets put it this way. An independent artist can have 2 fans and make money from giving concerts to those 2 fans. A major artist can have a label that backs them in creating albums and promoting, and even though the artist doesn't necessarily make that much off said album sales, the promotion (which the label has made money from) has earned them 10 fans whom they can make profit from giving concerts to. So now not only are the Labels making money from album sales. Major label artist make more money from concerts. And the artist still takes something away from those sales on top of it all.
nIANja909's picture

Yes major label studio albums do cost potentially millions to make. No an artist doesn't make a penny per album sale lmao. I'm almost positive most artists catch something around $1 per album sale depending on the artist. A few (the largest percentage) goes to the record labels (Because they are who invest in the first place so they make their money back first), and a few goes to retailers if I'm not mistaken. Artists do make limited money from CD sales compared to other things. Labels profit the most from album sales, however, without the labels putting up that money and promoting an artist wouldn't be able to make nearly as much money from things outside of album sales from things like concerts because he wouldn't have an audience which the label investing in said artist has afforded him.
Soun's picture

I am not "talking out of" my "arse"...I know this 4 a FACT...the money from album sales goes 2 pay off the millions it (believe it or not) takes 2 make a major label studio quality album...this is why artists say that record labels use artist & that artists should stay independent so much!!
Aradi's picture

SO/UN, I'm sorry sir but you're talking out of your arse. An artist makes a penny per album? So they need to sell a hundred albums to make a dollar? Or in other words, earn just $10,000 from selling a million copies? Naaah, man. I don't know how the industry works but I suspect it's like most other ventures. In as, the label mass produces the albums, carrying all the costs such as distribution, CDs, print and advertising. Hence the artist recieves royalties of about 10-20%, with the album earning the majority of the income to cover costs and remain profitable. This means that if a record costs $10-20, the artist earns something in the region of $1-4. Which means realistically they could get a couple million from sales alone. Using your own Maths, Lupe would have earned only a few thousand dollars from each album he released, as he has never sold a million copies of each of his albums!
nIANja909's picture

Also, very few independent artists have the means to work with high end producers or crews. So if those are the kinds of people they intend to work with regularly or in certain types of environments, that's just not gonna happen. Nor are they gonna book large venues. Nor are they gonna sale tons of albums to a large audience.
nIANja909's picture

No, my argument isn't that independent artists can't make dope music. It's that very few if any independent musicians can make music to reach an audience as large as a mainstream artist.
Soun's picture

most people on here know nothing about the music industry!...how it woorks is an Artist borrows money from their label company to make an album then that money is repaid through album sales...therefor an Artist makes about a penny per album...his main income comes from concerts & the sales made off of commerce...so Lupe doesnt care because hes already made his money...& hes trying to show the record label that it doesnt have any real control over him or his music!!
ExposingTheWicked's picture

Also I Whould Like To Raise The Fact That Lupe Himself Said That Artists Should Stay Indi. And Besides, Free Music Does Not Neccesary Mean It's A 'Mixtape'
ExposingTheWicked's picture

Good Word For The Industry. Your Speech Suggest That Indipendent Musicians Cannot Produce Dope Music (You Even Stated That They Whould Not Make Enough Money To Continue Making Music), Wich Is Basicly A Big Insult To Those With A Little Depth Into Music Just As Tv Is One Long Insult To Anyone With Developed Intelligence.
nIANja909's picture

I'm not saying that materialism doesn't play some role. Or greed doesn't effect artists. Just that the concept of selling albums in itself somehow makes an artist materialistic.
nIANja909's picture

Well of course it's not the only way to make money. But if Lupe only released mixtapes, guess what, he wouldn't have a relevant fan base to make money in other ways off of. Albums are mass produced and marketed as opposed to mixtapes. People are more aware of albums, and singles, that's how an artist gains a noticeable following. Thus, artists make money off their albums as well as other venues that stem from the popularity they received due to album marketing and singles etc, and they use that money to make more music, and to market that music. If an artist just released free music, guess what, they wouldn't make money TO continue creating music at the level of quality they wished, or to produce it in the quantity that would satisfy the demand, or to market it to continue to gain a larger following.
Droolin's picture

i wouldn't be surprised if some artists make more money doing shows and selling t-shirts and other merchandise at the venues, than selling albums.
ExposingTheWicked's picture

When I Said 'Only' I Was 'Obviously' Not Talking About Making Money In General, But Rather About Making Money As An Musician.
nIANja909's picture

Nobody said it's the "only" way to make money. Just like anybody in the worlds current job isn't the ONLY way to make money. But it is A way to make money. And it is THE way he's chosen for a career. Just like if I invented something and decided to sell it, it's not the only way I could make money... And it doesn't mean I'm materialistic lulz.
ExposingTheWicked's picture

It Whould Be Stupid To Say That One Could Only Make Money From Alum Sales ;) Well ... Whore Nation , and Hypocrite Nation go hand in hand...
nIANja909's picture

Well dude, this is still his business. It's his work, he's not gonna leak all his stuff and then not be able to make any money off it. That would just be stupid. Which has nothing to do with materialism.
ExposingTheWicked's picture

Whore Nation INDEED
ExposingTheWicked's picture

if he doesn't care about the money the cars ect... then just leak the shit!!!!!!!!! materialism ;( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SbME_u61o8 [ ] Noam "jew" chomkpsky [X] Mumia Abu Jamal
KIDROBOT's picture

This is my thing, he understanda that we as his fans want the album He knows it...and he's not deliberately not giving us what we want No respect for the album or his fans, and its not like we were the ones who leaked the songs He said that mixtapes cheapen your work, but he felt comfortable making Farenheit 1/15 and all that other stuff, and I didn't think it cheapened him But if that's how he feels....then theres nothin we can do Not cool at all.... PEACE

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